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[Lord Anubis]

Just curious, as I've noticed one or two of you have an interest in tales of the undead... 

Did anyone else read the Marvel Zombies comic book series/ graphic novel?  I know it's got a huge following, but I was actually disgusted by it (on a number of levels) and was wondering if maybe a fan could say what they liked about it.  Which is hopefully something more than "It was cool when Zombie Cap ate Magneto..."

I'm just worried I'm getting behind the times in my old age... 

[Warhammer]

I flipped through it at work.  I did like the end, where they devour Galactus and become the Devourers of Worlds.  It fit together nicely.  As for the rest of the book, I cannot fully say since I just flipped through it.

[Stephen Blundell]

I think it was a cool idea, was it a amazing concept?  I think even remotely changing an existing character is near impossible ... to turn it into the undead, I think it would have taken awhile to get past the editors.

I guess it was interesting to see the take on the characters.  At least they didn't do the typical zombie horde concept, so I liked that especially about the series.  Also I like Sean Philips art ... it had a dirty feel to it which tied very well to tone of the book.

Marvel decided to allow for the "Marvel Zombies" to turn up in their Ultimate Line, FF!  Which I have to say was much more exciting (and had a plot to boot) than the "Marvel Zombie" comic series.

Their cross over with "Army Of Darkness" had some crack my head of lines too.  That was a good laugh!

Lord Anubis ... what disgusted you? and how so?

[Lord Anubis]

I guess disgust is kind of a strong word.  I just honestly can't express how disappointed I was with it...

First is that I'm just a classicist, and I've always preferred the "Romero" zombie to the sprinting, leaping, talking, car-driving, ones that have become popular of late.

Second is that I am a lifetime fan of the classic Marvel heroes.  Captain America.  The Hulk.  Spider-Man (I've been collecting ASM since I was eight).  And, silly as it sounds, I like my heroes heroic.  Seeing them all cheerfully devolve into cannibalistic ghouls undercut a lot of what made these characters great, thus asking the question of why did it need to be any of these characters.  As a few people brought up in the I Am Legend thread, there's a definite point when something goes SO far off base that you have to wonder why they bothered to cite the original source material.

However, I also know these two points are just my opinion.  I know a lot of people love marathon-running, mortgage-paying zombies and a cannibalistic Captain America apparently appealed to a ton of folks.

What drives me nuts even past that though is that, past all that, it's just poorly written.  The dialogue is lead and just goes on and on and on and on (zombies apparently have tireless mouths for talking as well as eating).  There's almost no story, and what little there is feels like something written by a twelve year old fanboy.  A handful of zombies eat Galactus?!?  One of the three primal forces of the Marvel Universe?  What next, they punch out God?    

I thought the idea had tons of potential as a good-ol "What If...?" type story, and was really looking forward to it, but it just seemed to be a minimum effort piece all around.

Although, on the plus side, it got me scribbling my own ideas for a super-powered zombie story...

[Stephen Blundell]

I guess there's an element of where to take their characters too, every comic company (the big boys anyway), have tried to do their "event" series ... unforunatley, I think most of the fans are just plain tired (anyone read 52 ... snore) of these events ... look at the x-men mash of "Age Of Apocalypse", it was a neat idea, most of it worked but in the end what did it do for characters in the long run?!

Some would cite that Romero is the godfather of zombies (which he is in my eyes), but I'm sure people could reference to other films/culture/mythology too.  As for them talking way too much, I kind of liked their take on it ... endless dribble (I do however agree its not the most stunning dialogue around).

I just think its their take on just having fun, nothing to serious to be taken about it.  But it definitely was one of Marvels biggest and most well received series to date.  But is there something behind why they're doing the "zombie" theme?!  I'd say yes there is ... they're testing the readership response for sure!

[Zombie Zak]

I'm a zombie, you're a zombie, wouldn't you like to be a zombie too?  Ok, I'll throw in on this one.

Biggest thing that I liked about Marvel Zombies?  Suydam's cover artwork.  Not only in the Marvel Zombie series (yes, plural) but in a whole bunch of unrelated titles that all of a sudden sport zombie covers and plotlines and and and and...

Second thing that I liked about Marvel Zombies:  If it is not self evident by now, I like to make fun of things.  Firm belief in life:  If you can't make fun of yourself, then don't make fun of anybody else.  I liked the spoofing off of the classic characters.  Not a single piece in the Marvel Zombie universe makes a lick of sense, nor does it "contaminate" any of their stories.  (N.B.: There are a great many Marvel titles that I no longer collect because of the tendancy to "cross pollinate" their story lines.)

Third thing that I liked about Marvel Zombies:  Howard the Duck ate the top of Ash's head off.  OK, it was lame when they came back after that; but the thought, the image, the pure silliness of it made me laugh my arse off.

Things that I didn't like about the series:  Basically the rampant "Hey, we've run out of ideas; how about we throught them against zombies - they're popular right now."

All things considered, they remain in my collection.  I like them.

PS:  Marvel Zombies Series 2 started the other week.  They come back from space after devouring all of the habitable worlds in the universe.  What's left?

[Stephen Blundell]

And if you thought that was funny AOD VS Marvel Zombies right at the end meet .... those who read it will either go ... oh crap or thats neat too.

[Zombie Zak]

Yeah, that too.

But, on a different note: AOD comic series?  Anyone else?  Am I the only rabid collector?  I, uhm, have all the issues, the variants (most of them anyways) and some other stuff, too.  I know I'm kooky but what are you?   Hehehehee.

[Stephen Blundell]

If you are kooky then I must be one too. 

[TheBlackEmpty]

I think it is just like Zak said, this is a spoof and should not really be looked at or considered any other way. I had a lot of fun reading it, and look forward to more. Emphasis on the fun! And though I appreciate your preference of the classic zombie, as in the Romero zombie (All Hail the God Father!), I still enjoy new and interesting takes on the zombie genre.


TBE...

[Zombie Zak]

If you are kooky then I must be one too. 

Yes, indeed you are, sir!

[Thom Brannan]

PS:  Marvel Zombies Series 2 started the other week.  They come back from space after devouring all of the habitable worlds in the universe.  What's left?

I can't believe I ate the whole thing.

[BlueasJim]

Ok... So... I'm confused... How is it that mutants like Wolverine and Sabertooth and such turn into zombies? I mean... wouldn't thier healing powers constantly defeat the virus?

[Dayne]

Ok... So... I'm confused... How is it that mutants like Wolverine and Sabertooth and such turn into zombies? I mean... wouldn't thier healing powers constantly defeat the virus?

I think that the virus negates their healing powers. It seems like they are all decomposing, and Wolverine ruins his own arm in a fight with the Silver Surfer.