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Review of Eden
« on: July 10, 2008, 07:40:29 AM »

Well, I figure once Permuted re-issues the novel and people read it they can sound off here...Some of you might know it started out as a self-published book and did well...
Most of the readers on Amazon had nice things to say about it.

I'll try and post one positive review and one negative here so people who are interested might get a sense of what they're in for...

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« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2008, 07:41:17 AM »

First a postive one from Patrick Dorazio...

"I read a lot of zombie fiction. Just take a gander at my reviews over the past couple of years on Amazon and you will see that 95% of them are zombie fiction. No, this is not all that I read, but typically it is what I review ever since I got on my zombie reading kick a couple of years ago. I have enjoyed zombie movies for many years but I have taken it upon myself to try to read as much zombie stuff as there is available via Amazon more recently.
In this genre there are plenty of graphic novels, a small select group of mass market stuff, a wider array of product published by the likes of Permuted Press, which is a strong genre house that has produced some really solid zombie epics...and then there are the self published works.
I have read many of those, even the ones that previous reviewers have given ample warning that I should not even be considering because of their horrible editing, uninteresting storyline and atrocious character development. I enjoy zombies enough that it seems not to matter at the outset; my craving for stories of the undead seemingly unsatiable, although I have to admit that I really regretted forging ahead with some of the really horrible self published garbage out there.
Not here, not with this book. This one is definitely a keeper. I was hesitant at first. Why? Perhaps it is because of the my own confusion surrounding who wrote this book. It seems obvious that Tony Monchinski wrote the book, cops to it twice here on Amazon, but created an indepth fabrication as to who Tommy Arlin is. I was not sure about that but I can appreciate it as sort of the author's attempt at creating a pen name with a wink and a nod at the reader.
Tony does a bang up job with this story. He does change the writing style part way through but while I got used to quick automatic beat of the words early on I was able to settle in to the more traditional way he writes further on.
Our story centers around a high school principle named Harris who lives in NYC as the zombie plague breaks out. We follow him and numerous other folks that interact with him at one point or another, through his experiences after the zombies come and up to and beyond his time in Eden, a walled in fortress in Queens where a group of survivors are trying to survive and thrive as best they can. The story jumps backwards and forwards on different time tracks, giving us various perspectives and unveiling bits and pieces of the puzzle and mystery that is this story which starts out with our main character bitten and already cognizant that in less than 24 hours he will be dead and rising from the dead to become one of repulsive fiends he hates so much. This little tidbit is not giving away any secrets: we know within the first couple of sentences that Harris has been bit and we go from there. He wants to find out what human being allowed this to happen to him and get to them before he dies.
The story is a bit disjointed with the shifting time frame that allows the author to reveal both minor and major details at his own pace, not allowing us to understand the whole truth of things until the very end. It is a bit confusing but I was certainly able to keep track of it all, enjoying the pace the storyteller was able to set.
The author does a good job coming up with a few "tweaks" to the zombies themselves in addition to having a good story to tell. The undead can be slow, fast, screamers or silent and there are even a few "brains" amongst them, the true predators of the breed. They are smart enough to know how to hunt humans down more effectively and are, by far, the most disturbing of this new breed. If I were to be critical, it would be that we did not really get to see any of them in action during the book, or so it seemed. If you are going to create new varieties, use them. Not a big criticism by any means though.
I thought the author did a great job in describing the rapid breakdown of New York with plausible military intervention and government reaction to such a unthinkable catastrophe. Individuals come and go in the book but are not treated as extras but rather as solid human beings even if their fate is an abrupt and painful one. It is clear that our author knows the city and knows its people and uses this knowledge to great advantage here.
Solid character development, great tone and flow of story, and overall another worthwhile ride into the doomed world of the zombie apocalypse."
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Re: Review of Eden
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2008, 07:42:44 AM »

A bit long, right? but I am humbled that the guy took his time and wrote such a well-thought out, thorough review.

The fact that he said good things about the book doesn't hurt either...

but to be fair, here is a critical in the sense of negative review that was actually a lot of fun for me to read...
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« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2008, 07:48:05 AM »

Well, this is interesting.
I had one reviewer who titled his one-star Amazon review "Unreadable" write a long review ripping me apart...saying he thought the novel was terrible and gave it to his wife and she agreed...saying he suspected I had family members and friends write the 5-star reviews...I mean, it was almost personal and I wondered if this was someone I knew from real life who might have an axe to grind with me.

And now that review is down from Amazon.com.
How is that possible?
Interesting...
Anyone ever hear of something like this happening before (a posted review being removed?)? It was up there for awhile....

Anyway, I promise you all that the Permuted edition will be tighter with the few typos I didn't catch and factual inaccuracies (like when I misidentify Butch and Kid going out in a hail of Mexican lead; it was Bolivian--I was thinking of my other favorite Western, Pekinpah's Wild Bunch).
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Re: Review of Eden
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2008, 08:19:33 AM »

I apologize if this thread (or any of these threads) seems self-serving, self-aggrandizing. I do have a book to promote, but I really did intend to post that now-missing negative review.
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Re: Review of Eden
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2008, 12:11:09 PM »

And now that review is down from Amazon.com.
How is that possible?
Interesting...
Anyone ever hear of something like this happening before (a posted review being removed?)? It was up there for awhile....

I'm fairly certain one can go back any time and delete a review they've posted.  Maybe he/she had a change of heart?
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Re: Review of Eden
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2008, 12:44:42 PM »

And now that review is down from Amazon.com.
How is that possible?
Interesting...
Anyone ever hear of something like this happening before (a posted review being removed?)? It was up there for awhile....

I'm fairly certain one can go back any time and delete a review they've posted.  Maybe he/she had a change of heart?

That, or they realized how dumb they looked.

Patrick's review is a GOOD One. This guy's the CRITIC of zombie fiction, as far as I've seen. He can either like your book, or not; it's usually not inbetween either.
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Re: Review of Eden
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2008, 01:43:20 PM »

Patrick's review is a GOOD One. This guy's the CRITIC of zombie fiction, as far as I've seen. He can either like your book, or not; it's usually not inbetween either.

Yeah he always does great, detailed reviews (both positive and negative).  I've picked up more than one book based on his reviews.
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Re: Review of Eden
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2008, 04:18:52 PM »

Patrick's review is a GOOD One. This guy's the CRITIC of zombie fiction, as far as I've seen. He can either like your book, or not; it's usually not inbetween either.

Yeah he always does great, detailed reviews (both positive and negative).  I've picked up more than one book based on his reviews.

A writer can't ask for a better reviewer because of his attention to detail. I'm sure even his negative reviews are just as detailed and not "personal".
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Re: Review of Eden
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2008, 07:14:48 PM »

I cant wait for the book to be back the market. I keep telling everyone and anyone about it. I love the new cover and I think both covers should be put on a T' shirt they would look great. Congrats again on the book and new cover. The new cover is just awesome I love it. Also thank goodness for Permuted Press and that they know talent when they see it or is it read it..
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« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2008, 06:12:58 AM »

I cant wait for the book to be back the market. I keep telling everyone and anyone about it. I love the new cover and I think both covers should be put on a T' shirt they would look great. Congrats again on the book and new cover. The new cover is just awesome I love it. Also thank goodness for Permuted Press and that they know talent when they see it or is it read it..

Thanks for dropping in USMCguysAK47!

Initially, before Eden found a home with Permuted, as part of my marketing strategy, I gave away a few dozen copies of the novel via zombie-related forums like Zombie Hunters, All Things Zombies, Kirkman.com, etc. All I asked is if someone got a free book, read it, and liked it, that they help spread the word...

USMCguysAK47 was one of these guys and I really appreciate all he has said and done for the book and know he will love the Permuted edition! USMCguysAK47 is also a writer and working on his own zombie novel as we type...watch for it!
 
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Re: Review of Eden
« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2008, 12:09:31 AM »

What, no comment about how horrible I am for only giving you three stars on Amazon?  (Just kidding!  JUST KIDDING!!)      :D

Like I said in my review, although I felt it had its flaws, I've definitely read far worse.  This was a pretty decent novel and I'll be looking forward to your next venture into zombiedom.
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Re: Review of Eden
« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2008, 09:22:12 AM »

I think the Permuted edition of Eden (being edited now) will address some of the "flaws" you mention. I know for a fact that the eventual sequel will be written in a more straightforward way (I am not referring here to the non-linearity). But I also know it will not appeal to all readers or even all zombie fans.

When I wrote Eden I didn't think, "I want to write a good zombie book." I thought, "I want to write a good novel." Zombies are a part of it and I knew there was a rabid fanbase for zombie fiction (me being one).

That said, the reviews of Eden have been interesting because few were mediocre or luke-warm. People tended to really love the book, and there were a couple who hated it. Go figure.
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Re: Review of Eden
« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2008, 01:47:25 PM »

The editor, here :)

I have to say, although Eden did have a few issues that needed to be addressed, I really liked it. It's very character-driven, and I got quite attached to the protagonists, even though I was doing my best to concentrate on technical stuff. Everyone had their strengths and their flaws, and these were presented in a very realistic and believeable way. There was also an Irish character, which is awesome.

I also really liked the non-linear structure. The story and the setting unfolded, gradually showing more of itself. What I really, really liked was that there was no info-dumping. As a reader, I was able to glean the vital information about the world from the events and casual dialogue, rather than from the author stepping in to tell us what happened, or the exposition character stepping in to educate the more ignorant souls populating the narrative.

There were also a few scenes where the mundane is strongly contrasted with the horrific, to great effect. The one that really stood out for me was towards the end... with the basket. If you've read Eden, you'll know what I mean.

I'm definitely looking forward to reading the sequel :)
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Re: Review of Eden
« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2008, 02:54:59 PM »

Hey, Monchinski, out of curiosity...the bloke who gave you the nasty personal review and accused the positive reviewers of being family members/friends/shills, was his name Novel Moniker?

Because that guy flitted all around Plague's reviews saying the same thing, that all the 4 and 5 star reviews were faked. Ticked me off. I'm not sure why anyone would have cause to say such a thing. I feel for ya.
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