OK, I am by no means a perfect Christian here, but I have to say something. After reading some of DDHH's posts, I feel like he is stating that believing in God makes me an idiot who believes in fairy tales?
I don't think you are an 'idiot' - I don't know you, DM. From what I've read of your posts, you seem pretty cool to me.
I do think, however, that belief in a god (and in particular the judeo/xian/ islamic god) defies logic...
... but let's not get into that. My post wasn't meant to lead me into *yet another* debate on religion. It was a commentary on politics - and Irish politics, at that.
*feels self being dragged into it*
Iris Robinson is a fundamentalist xian. Her narrow-minded, ill-educated views *are* a result of her faith - that's *her* opinion (as well as mine):
(from wikipedia)
In June 2008, shortly after a homophobic attack on a gay man in the province, she [Robinson] made comments on the BBC Radio Ulster's Stephen Nolan Show offering to recommend homosexuals to psychiatric counselling.[8] While condemning the attack,[9] she said during the broadcast:
“ "I have a very lovely psychiatrist who works with me in my offices and his Christian background is that he tries to help homosexuals - trying to turn away from what they are engaged in". ”
She went on to say "I'm happy to put any homosexual in touch with this gentleman and I have met people who have turned around and become heterosexuals." Mrs Robinson claimed that homosexuality was an "abomination" and it made her feel "sick" and "nauseous". In a subsequent interview following criticism of her comments, Mrs Robinson defended her views and denied prejudice against homosexuals, saying that "just as a murderer can be redeemed by the blood of Christ, so can a homosexual.... If anyone takes issue, they're taking issue with the word of God."[10]
Her claims were rebuffed by the Royal College of Psychiatrists, David McCartney from the Rainbow Project, Sinn Féin's Education Minister, Caitríona Ruane[11] and Social Democratic and Labour Party (SDLP) representatives including Equality Spokesperson, Dolores Kelly.[12][13] The psychiatrist in question, Dr Paul Miller, later resigned from his post of 'adviser' to Mrs Robinson, and temporarily stood down from his post of Consultant pyschiatrist at Belfast's Mater hospital.[14]
She is now also under a police hate crime investigation for those comments as over one hundred[15] separate complaints have been made against her, including those by Andrew Muir, the vice chair of Gay and Lesbian across Down,[16] who is a member of the South Belfast District Policing Partnership,[17] and by gay rights activist Robert Toner who believes his human rights were violated and complained to the Equality Commission. According to the Coalition on Sexual Orientation (CoSo), a gay advocacy group in Northern Ireland, the figure of over one hundred complaints was provided to them by the police. Some of the complaints were made in person by members of the public visiting a local police station, and some were made via the PSNI website.[15][18] Mrs Robinson again repeated her viewpoint in the Northern Ireland Assembly on 30 June 2008 when questioned by Health Minister Michael McGimpsey[19][20] in a discussion about "LGBT Groups: Mental-Health Needs".
On 17 June 2008, speaking in a Northern Ireland Grand Committee session on Risk Assessment and Management of Sex Offenders, Iris Robinson asserted:
“ “There can be no viler act, apart from homosexuality and sodomy, than sexually abusing innocent children” ”
—Iris Robinson - House of Commons committee minutes[21] 'sides, once you ignore DDHH's "ur fukkin stoopid if you are theist" stuff, it's only a small part of his presence here, and he's otherwise one of the bright shining points of this board.
Thanks, Doug (I think) ... you're not so bad yourself.
I'm a committed anti-xian. That's part of me, and I'll be as proud of that as any xian is of their beliefs. In my opinion, xianity (historically, politically and biblically - I've studied theology and read widely on this) is *not* about love. That may be a sub-context that you can take from the (what I would see as) heavily edited gospels that were chosen from a variety of writings at the time to make up the xian canon of scripture - but it's not the central theme of scripture, nor, indeed, of the god described throughout such.
The reason that I speak vehmently against religion (and often xianity) is because I really beleive that it is destroying our world. Sorry, but that's my opinion.
I apologise for offending you, DM, but not for stating what I believe. We both have the right, as you have said, to that freedom of speech. Hopefully, though, we can avoid getting engulfed in a tit-for-tat argy-bargy in the spirit of...
We're a happy family, even with differences over politics and religion, mainly because we dump that stuff at the door when it's time to celebrate zombies nommin' brainz.
Deal?
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