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Online distribution...
« on: December 14, 2011, 12:25:18 PM »

I'm sure most folks here have heard about this. Louis C.K. cut his own comedy video and released it dirt cheap with no protection, encouraging people to share it openly.

While I've already seen a few people touting this as "proof" the old system is dead, I think that the article is pretty balanced.  It is a sign of things to come and a definite sign that there are more options in the digital age, but at the moment it's a freak occurrence--a novelty at best.  A novelty that Louis only managed because he's already a well known comedian and television star (he was just a guest on Conan) who was found and marketed by the existing studio system.

Food for thought.  Discuss.  Debate.  Mock openly.   :)
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Re: Online distribution...
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2011, 12:36:41 PM »

Interesting.  Didn't Stephen King try to market an e-book a few years ago, only to have it flop?

I don't know more than that, but it must mean something.
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« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2011, 01:38:23 PM »

The Plant, yeah.  But there were a bunch of issues with that.  You weren't buying the book, you were just buying chapters.  The pricing bounced around a lot, too.

It was also over ten years ago.  He did his experiment with The Plant in 2000 (the year before 9/11--think of it that way) so it's arguable he was too far ahead of the curve to even count. 
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« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2011, 02:13:58 PM »

Mock openly.

Why would anyone want to laugh at a comedy video?
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« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2011, 03:01:00 PM »

Trent Reznor has been well ahead of the curve as far as online distribution goes.
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Re: Online distribution...
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2011, 05:21:28 PM »

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Why would anyone want to laugh at a comedy video?

"When I told everyone I wanted to be a comedian, they all laughed at me.  Well now I am a professional comedian, and no one's laughing now!"


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Trent Reznor has been well ahead of the curve as far as online distribution goes.

True, but he only started his radical ideas in, what... 2007, I think?  King was way, way ahead.  Plus, Reznor was coming off a ten year career as a very successful and popular musician.  Like with Louis CK, it does skew the results a bit.

And didn't Reznor just make his stuff completely free, no need to pay at all?  It's kind of an apples and oranges comparison, how much did you give away vs how much did I sell.   :-\

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Re: Online distribution...
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2011, 05:31:41 PM »

Interesting.  Didn't Stephen King try to market an e-book a few years ago, only to have it flop?

I don't know more than that, but it must mean something.

He did it one chapter at a time back around 2000 when people still used dial up. So you were looking at some ugly screen shots trying to read a book. If I remember right he ended up just giving people the rest of it.
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« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2011, 05:32:29 PM »

read thread first...post second

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« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2011, 05:33:48 PM »

Mock openly.

One of my favorite quotes ever was by John Lennon, when asked if he were a Mod, or a Rocker:  "I'm a Mocker."
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« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2011, 06:06:01 PM »

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You're obviously new in town, stranger.  This here's the internet, and that's not how we do things 'round here.


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« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2011, 06:08:20 PM »

The Plant, yeah.  But there were a bunch of issues with that.  You weren't buying the book, you were just buying chapters.  The pricing bounced around a lot, too.

It was also over ten years ago.  He did his experiment with The Plant in 2000 (the year before 9/11--think of it that way) so it's arguable he was too far ahead of the curve to even count. 

If you really were 153 years old 2000 would seem, as it does to me, a few years ago.
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Re: Online distribution...
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2011, 07:56:03 AM »

Interesting.  Didn't Stephen King try to market an e-book a few years ago, only to have it flop?

I don't know more than that, but it must mean something.

If King did that now on the Kindle?  HUGE.
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« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2011, 05:26:10 PM »

Didn't radiohead try a "pay what you want" model? I think, from memory, they did ok out of it, but they already a pretty dedicated fan base. I would think that if you had the type of fans who are dedicated to you, rather than impulse buyers, that would help considerably.
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« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2011, 05:44:45 PM »

Interesting.  Didn't Stephen King try to market an e-book a few years ago, only to have it flop?

If King did that now on the Kindle?  HUGE.

Geez, yes.  The servers would crash.
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« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2011, 05:47:18 PM »

I wonder what the e-market is for Harlequin romances?  I would think the Kindle/Nook (hereinafter referred to as "Nookle") is tailor-made for "disposable" reading of that ilk--you no longer have those huge piles of paperbacks to deal with.
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